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Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:52:56 -
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Agree with OP....that the same gankers keep ganking without any real deterrent to continuing shows that law enforcement is broken. It fundamentally makes the game more tedious and less fun for the vast majority of highsec PvE folks. Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks.
Thankfully CCP is starting to realize how negative this whole meta is, as awoxxing seems destined to be tossed overboard, I imagne that wardeccs will soon be curtailed, and the new bowhead ship was at least given a buffed up tank and an agility bonus. The era of the griefer is coming to a close. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:19:29 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:veers, you have given us every reason to believe that you do not fully(or even partially) understand the systems and meta you talk about. as hilariously evidenced here. Veers Belvar wrote:Inflation isn't about how much isk is in circulation ha!
Yes, sherlock, inflation is determined by the supply and demand for money. In a closed economy like in Eve, if isk in circulation goes up 10%, but all commodities that you would purchase with isk increase in circulation by 20%, we would....wait for it....expect deflation....just like what we have now.
Maybe it's time to stop shooting noobs and learn some economics. Money supply is certainly not the sole determining factor of inflation rate...if that was the case economies in hyperinflation could just tighten the money supply....and japan, experiencing real deflation, could just increase the money supply.
I mean come on buddy, we can accept shoddy PvP here, but not shoddy economics. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:31:41 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:As for your claim of tedium, the inverse is in fact true, gankers make the game more interesting for those of use that actually make the effort to outwit and outmanoeuvre them. Without the element of danger they add to highsec most highsec activities would be about as interesting as watching paint dry. Quote:Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Good for you, you've taken steps to mitigate the risk. You'll never be 100% gank proof unless you never leave station. Quote:Thankfully CCP is starting to realize how negative this whole meta is, as awoxxing seems destined to be tossed overboard, I imagne that wardeccs will soon be curtailed, and the new bowhead ship was at least given a buffed up tank and an agility bonus. Awoxing will still be possible after the proposed changes, it'll just be harder to carry it out in highsec. Wardecs are unlikely to be curtailed, unlike you CCP want a vibrant single shard player driven game, not what is for all intents and purposes a separate highsec Trammel shard that is populated by gold farmers.
1. CONCORD were designed to act as a lawn enforcement agency and punish criminals. There are 4 justifications for criminal punishment -
1. Moral retribution 2. rehabilitation 3. Protection of society from the individual criminal 4. Deterrence of other would be criminals
2,3,4 are certainly not occurring. And 1 would require far stiffer punishments, certainly restitution for the lost loot would be a minimum requirement. Law enforcement agencies that are unable to appropriately punish career criminals are not worthy of the name, and are little more than joke organizations. There is no way that someone who blows up 10 freighters in a single day would be free to roam the streets, subject only to a 15 minute timeout.
Also, the idea that without ganking highsec would be boring is not true - incursions offer a measure of PvP and competition without ganking....I find them enjoyable and engaging. We don't need capsuleer ships exploding to have fun. What CODE really does is cause individual players to avoid activities like hauling, which hardly makes highsec more interesting.
3. With cloak + MWD + travel fit, close to 300k ehp, and not susceptible to bumping, you are virtually ungankable. It's just boring to need to travel like that in highsec....how is forcing people to use boring travel fits good for the game?
4. Awoxxing in highsec is deterring people from joining corporations. So are wardeccs. So is corporate theft. CCP realizes that deterring social engagement in highsec is bad for the game, and is taking steps to remedy that. I don't see how getting rid of awoxxing but keeping wardeccs and theft will accomplish that. CCP is prioritizing the 98% of non-gankers in highsec over the 2% of highsec that is gankers, which seems to be a fundamentally sound business move. |

Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:35:27 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic.
I guess we have different definitions of "fun." The fact that when moving I need to spend a minute travel fitting my ships to make them 100% gankproof is not very "fun." It's actually pretty boring. The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers...talk to the highsec victims and see how many are having "fun."
I would expect an eventual crackdown on -10 gankers...the ability of CODE to sit in Uedama all day ganking freighters with no consequences will not be a long term reality....there is fundamentally no way in the current meta to really punish them, and I expect that to change. |

Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:09:16 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Personally I don't haul at all, travel fit my ships + cloak + mwd, and don't autopilot, which makes me essentially 100% gank proof. Of course it's also not very exciting, and that tedium is the real result of CODE - spreading boredom as people take precautions to avoid the ganks. The fact that high sec is not a safe place makes the game more fun. I find hauling to be quite a fun activity, especially with valuable cargo. Hauling is a PvP activity, since you are hauling against the risk of being ganked by other players, and lots of players in EvE enjoy PvP because it is fun! As for CODE, well whatever conflict may occur between us in the game, they are creating content which can help people to have fun, and player-driven content is what EvE is all about. If there are players out there not enjoying themselves then maybe they should think about whether they are playing the right game! Of course, CCP seem to have decided that intracorp attacks will trigger a concord response in high sec, but they have previously stated that suicide ganking is here to stay. I think it is a bit of a step too far to say that suicide ganking is out of hand because it is still quite easy to have fun playing the game, and as long as that continues, I expect it will remain a valid game mechanic. I guess we have different definitions of "fun." The fact that when moving I need to spend a minute travel fitting my ships to make them 100% gankproof is not very "fun." It's actually pretty boring. The only people having with fun with ganking are the gankers...talk to the highsec victims and see how many are having "fun." I would expect an eventual crackdown on -10 gankers...the ability of CODE to sit in Uedama all day ganking freighters with no consequences will not be a long term reality....there is fundamentally no way in the current meta to really punish them, and I expect that to change. So you find having to gankproof your ship for travel to be boring? This seems to be entirely a personal problem. Personally, I kind of enjoy the little adrenaline rush I get when flying around with my highsec hauler. The fact that highsec is not 100% safe is part of the fun in this game. But then again, I haven't shiptoasted all over the forums to the point where every ganker in the game would have a nerdgasm over getting on my killmail.
How is that working out for the ganker clowns? 5,000 threats later, and not one legit kill....it turns out that the gankers are real good at blowing hot air on the forums and killing AFK haulers and AFK miners, but seem completely hapless against a single competent highsec PvE expert. Keep trying, jokers.
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Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:26:02 -
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Well the insults started well before, if you care to read back...I am certainly entitled to defend myself, and will continue doing so. And the threats of retaliation for not following the troll "code" are legion, and all hot air. It turns out they don't have the competence to actually go after people who are expert at the game, like myself. So they will continue to go after new/casual players, collect tears, and eventually have CCP nerf their playstyle into oblivion. Remind you much of the awoxxers? |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:28:40 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Considering that this is a CODE. thread and that CODE. are very specifically focused on killing AFK players and players that willfully make no attempt to avoid destruction in an effort to make those individuals actually play the game rather than just sit afk in a belt or autopiloting for hours it should not be surprising that they haven't killed you when you've been taking extreme measures to avoid them killing you.
In fact you're doing what they want you to do. Being an active participant in the game who is aware of and compensating for the dangers around them.
The only issue is that you don't like adhering to a standard set by other players. Your option is this: don't take action to prevent being ganked and face the consequences.
Actually, CODE insisted that I buy their permit, and threatened ganking if such a purchase was not made. I told them to get stuffed. They also accused me of "mining" PvP, and promised to bring my "CODE compliance" level up to 100%....all empty words and empty threats with no one to back them up. They want to fundamentally change the risk/reward in highsec and get people to leave it, and, as far as it applies to me, they have failed miserably.
Keep trying Codebros...I'm sure someday you will get the minimal level of competence to actually come after me..... |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:29:45 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I told you before veers narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you
Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. |

Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:31:39 -
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CODE Agent AC wrote:I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner!
Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going?
Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style . Might I suggest beam zealots? |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:33:25 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:It sounds like you took a canned extortion attempt personally. That's kind of a you problem.
Yep, multiple front page mentions on their website, a 2 hour TS session, a 32 page bounty thread, 1 bil in bounty.....it wasn't personal at all....just the standard sales pitch 
I guess part of the problem is that the folks I dealt with the most never seem to log on anymore. It's hard to keep track with all the new faces. It would be nice to have a stable leadership team. |
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:35:04 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I told you before veers narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head  ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. No veers that actually proves that we can't even pay someone to spend time on you.
That's because the people you tried to pay face the same problem you do - the complete inability to actually go after an elite PvE player like me. Your wardecc plan failed (roll corp ftw!), I quickly rejected the few would be awoxxers, I'm a massive specialist at fitting ships properly and avoiding would be gankers. Facing those impossible odds, who would really want to come after me? |

Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:46:58 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:rag week Tears?. you are coming across quite tetchy 
Tetchy? Not sure what that means.
I am obviously bothered by how Code/Goons continue to go after new/casual players, blow up their haulers, bankrupt them, and cause them to ragequit the game. I think that is fundamentally bad for Eve, and am happy to be a voice opposing the senseless violence.
i hope the coming awoxx changes are the first step in creating a liveable and law abiding highsec...where crime is the exception - not the norm...and groups like CODE are properly brought to justice. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 19:57:16 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:malcovas Henderson wrote:What I find is getting really out of hand, is the amount of Bad / Lazy players playing this game.
The fact that Code's killboard is very nicely padded, is testament to that fact
Bad / lazy Playing is a plague upon us, how long are CCP going to let this Carebear playerbase continue to destroy EvE. I agree. Autopilot should be removed from the game. And mining should be a mini-game like hacking.
Agree on mining, though I'd prefer that it be removed from the game entirely.
As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buff. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:07:46 -
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CODE Agent AC wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:CODE Agent AC wrote:I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style  . Might I suggest beam zealots? Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do.
So you admit to being easily distracted by shiny objects? Killing haulers is not bringing highsec into code compliance, you have been doing it for months and the trends are staying the same. Until you engage the elite PvE targets you have no hope of success. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:09:03 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buffit means that I can be lazy and watch a film while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into . Fixed that for you.
Confirming that "playing" Eve is fundamentally built around right clicking and pressing "jump" every 45 seconds. Doesn't sound like elite PvP or elite PvE, maybe we should call it elite Navigation?
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:14:06 -
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CODE Agent AC wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:CODE Agent AC wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:CODE Agent AC wrote:I shot at the station Veers has been docked up in. It did not end well, I must investigate different means. Maybe if I just use an ice miner! Joke's are not an effective way to cover up incompetence. When are you going to stop ganking AFK haulers and come looking for real targets? How is the CODE campaign against mission runners and incursion runners going? Last I heard the brilliant suggestion was to use massed smartbombing Rokh fleets, Rooks and Kings style  . Might I suggest beam zealots? Our lack of caring is not equivalent to lack of action. Regarding your standard statement of 'well incursion runners are still alive and you haven't attacked' is mostly due to really expensive AFK ships that just keep coming through and distracting us. I mean how can we REALLY let those 10B haulers go? You have been called out on multiple occasions to engage in friendly space PEW-PEW in both High & Low. Yet you never do. So you admit to being easily distracted by shiny objects? Killing haulers is not bringing highsec into code compliance, you have been doing it for months and the trends are staying the same. Until you engage the elite PvE targets you have no hope of success. Do you try this hard to be this wrong all the time, or is it inherent?
Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. Cute goggles by the way, have you considered making a product line?
Keep working on those beam zealot skills. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:20:06 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:As for autopiloting, it avoids boring travel, and needs a buffit means that I can be lazy and watch a film while I'm "playing" a game instead of having to put in any effort. I'd like to see warping to 0 and instant travel because I'm too fornicating lazy to actually play the game I'm logged into . Fixed that for you. Confirming that "playing" Eve is fundamentally built around right clicking and pressing "jump" every 45 seconds. Doesn't sound like elite PvP or elite PvE, maybe we should call it elite Navigation? You do realise that CCP just nixxed instant travel from another area of the game because it was OP as hell don't you? They're unlikely to implement something into the AP function that they just removed from elsewhere because simpering fools like you want them to. Warp to zero already exists btw, you have to be at the keyboard to do it though, which is entirely too much to ask of some people  Quote:Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. This is a prime example of you being wrong.
They nerfed instatravel of CAPITALS because of hotdrops. Which has precisely nothing to do with autopiloting quickly in highsec.  |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:23:51 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Can't recall the last time I've been wrong about something....certainly never happened when discussing Eve. This is a prime example of you being wrong. Everything he posts is an example of him being wrong, nothing new there.
So "wrong" that the gankers went into a rage and made a 32 page thread devoted to trying, and failing to kill me. 
Keep up the good work, and keep getting outclassed. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:29:45 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Whenever Veers posts, I suddenly understand why my cat chases the laser pointer dot. Seriously man. Pride. From what I can tell you're still a bit under a year old here, and claiming to be elite at every turn. A complete absence of humility is a disturbing thing, as it doesn't show confidence so much as a special flavor of blindness. Even those who I WOULD consider to be elite carry their losses as badges as much as their victories, admit to capacity for failure, and embrace a willingness to learn from their mistakes. In short, your relentless insistence of your own awesomeness kind of disturbs me, as it's unnatural.
How sad...have you considered doing something about it? Like a wardecc? An awoxx? Placing a bounty? Suicide ganking? Making a 32 page bounty thread on the forums? Asking CCP for help? Maybe take CONCORD out of highsec? Why don't you get some friends and come hunt me down?
I mean, are you so pathetic that you can't think of a single option how to handle this? Give your CEO Ralphie credit for one thing, he takes his losses like a man, he doesn't sit here and cry. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:30:53 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I told you before veers narcissis, no one cares enough to waste any of their free time on you Except for the 32 page bounty thread and 1 bil bounty on my head  ....It's not that you don't care...it's that you are too incompetent to actually achieve your goals. Stick to hello kitty online. One billion only? This must indded be frustrating after all those posts.
I know! Reminds me of the anti-CODE miners....just walls of text of rage, but when it comes time to donate some isk to make a resistance movement, the collection pot ends up with a couple of pennies. |
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:37:30 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:So "wrong" that the gankers went into a rage and made a 32 page thread devoted to trying, and failing to kill me.  You mean the thread where we basically extracted the urine out of you for 32 pages? Quote:Keep up the good work Thanks, I will. Quote: and keep getting outclassed. The only things you outclass most people in are the sheer amount of stupidity and narcissism you display. Anything else would require some semblance of rational thought and intelligence on your behalf, things you have failed to demonstrate so far.
Oh ya, cause I was the one with enough rage to make a 32 page bounty thread. 
Keep trying, and failing, to stop me. Even the combined efforts of CODE/Goons couldn't stop my posting what I want, when I want. No amount of bounty can remedy your collective incompetence. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:45:56 -
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CODE Agent AC wrote:I will be bottling this thread as a Beaujolais vintage 'Tears of Veers' and please place orders now to ensure delivery in time for the holidays.
Yep - CODE humiliated, a 32 page failed bounty thread, a failed campaign against mission and incursion runners, and key members of their leadership quitting Eve = Veers tears.
Nice to know Loyalanon has taught your guys how to think properly.
Don't forget the obligatory - The Code Always Wins !!!!!
and don't forget to purchase a Veers permit for 30 million Isk. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:46:55 -
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ggodhsup wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:You seem to be overly proud of the many pages on the thread about yer bounty. Now, if we were to subtract the anslo/counter anslo poasts from that, we'd be looking about oh about maybe 8 pages.
Buff autopilot? Surely you troll. It already got a buff, warp to 0. Way back in the day we all had to warp to 15km and pray to Yog Sothoth that we wouldn't get popped before we hit the gate. Take a moment to contemplate your bad. ^^this....warp to 0 made low-sec an amusement park.....and high-sec, the bounce house at the amusement park....afk players will get what they get. you want safety guaranteed? stay in station. EDIT: forgot to address veers directly.....this is for you *insert amusement park mascot* EDIT EDIT: veers your avatar is ugly.
And woah - my avatar ROCKS. |

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Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec. |

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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:08:01 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Well, I guess CODE discussing recipes is better than CODE ganking new/casual players and getting people to ragequit the game. Another job well done by Veers, the hero of highsec. Who says we can't do both at the same time?
You guys can't take down a simple solo L4 and incursion runner. You think you are capable of multitasking dump posting and ganking?       
Maybe you should make a second 32 page bounty thread? If at first you fail miserably, keep doing the exact same thing hoping it will succeed. |

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Tengu Grib wrote:Fail miserably? That thread was a wonderful success and accomplished all of it's intended goals. I don't expect you to understand though, you've proven again and again that you are far too obtuse to see the Truth.
That a 32 page obsessive thread was created to try and get me killed, and failed miserably, is yet another feather in my cap, and something I am happy to trumpet. Veers stared down the Belligerent Undesirables, and Veers, as per usual, won.
Thanks for the free publicity, scrub. Can you get me on EveNews or TMC for my next booking? |

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Posted - 2014.11.13 00:45:32 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Posting in another bad thread made even worse by veers. Veers Belvar wrote: That a 32 page obsessive thread was created to try and get me killed, and failed miserably, is yet another feather in my cap, and something I am happy to trumpet. Veers stared down the Belligerent Undesirables, and Veers, as per usual, won.
Thanks for the free publicity, scrub. Can you get me on EveNews or TMC for my next booking?
Come on man, even you cant be that daft. Those threads are a C&P inside joke that everyone gets but YOU, who cannot seem to grasp that. IT IS A JOKE. If we all really were gunning for Veers Belvar corpses, we would certainly have them, or you would spend much time logged off, in station, or on alts. Trust me, its not because your so awesome at EvE.
Nice try buddy.....We failed to kill you because....uh....we didn't try. 
Keep up the heaps of fail and bad work. |

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Posted - 2014.11.13 02:52:54 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him
Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. |

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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:12:12 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him
Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me.
I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter.
Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. |

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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:21:29 -
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CODE Agent AC wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:came to this thread thinking Veers was an adversary to be feared left feeling sorry for him
Feel bad for the cowardly CODE folks and their empty threats. Biggest group of hot air blowers in the game. If it's all hot air, I have a high collateral freighter sized contract you can take through Uedama for me. I'd consider it...even though I can't fly a freighter. Thing is hauling is REALLY BORING, and I'm a guy who doesn't do boring things. So to get me to train worthless skills and actually do a freighter is gonna cost ya like 20 billion isk...not sure you can afford it. Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay.
Funny, my skills seem to be helping me "mine" red crosses in highsec for well over 100 mil/hour without a mining permit...
What are you going to do about it? Oh wait, cry, make some lame jokes, kill some hapless AFK miners and haulers....and.....nothing.
You sure are a fearsome presence in highsec. Have you considered Tic Tac Toe?        |
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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:26:21 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:CODE Agent AC wrote: Veers, anything you train is a worthless skill. It's not the skills fault though, I tend to place the blame on the user interaction during gameplay.
Mr Canal. I was going to make a much longer, much less eloquent variant on this comment, but you just did it much better. Also Veers - you might want to read up on the contract interface before making a fool of yourself again. Suggesting a third party be involved as a third party in a collateralized courier contract is somewhat odd when the game client serves as a 100% honest third party. I resepct my adversaries until they prove themselves unworthy of respect. You appear determined to destroy what little scraps of respect I have left for you.
Trust me, I haven't a shred of respect for you and the rest of the CODE griefers. As a well known scammer I would expect you to try and manipulate the contract, and somehow contrive to scam me. I learned not to trust thieves and scammers, hence the use of a legitimate third party so that I don't need to risk being scammed.
Anyhow - stick to the incursion gank contest - it was a perfect demonstration of your absolute (lack of) competence. Just hope you found a happy home for those Rattlesnake hulls. |

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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:38:22 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Trust me, I haven't a shred of respect for you and the rest of the CODE griefers. As a well known scammer I would expect you to try and manipulate the contract, and somehow contrive to scam me. I learned not to trust thieves and scammers, hence the use of a legitimate third party so that I don't need to risk being scammed.
Anyhow - stick to the incursion gank contest - it was a perfect demonstration of your absolute (lack of) competence. Just hope you found a happy home for those Rattlesnake hulls.
Unfortunately, real life issues meant I did not have time to run that contest. Things like that happen and participants that demonstrated results received some prizes. I firmly believe RL comes before a game. Incidentally, this is the same reason I'm not going to EVE Down Under. I do find it hilarious that when I challenge you to take an overcollateralized freighter load through Uedama you don't even know how to respond. If you didn't fear gankers, you'd do it because the only way you could be 'scammed' would be if the freighter got blown up.
Yes, I'm sure that's what happened...not the total lack of kills. You can fool stupid people sometimes, and smart people not at all.
As I said, I can't fly freighters and hauling is boring. For the right price relative to the collateral I guess I'll take the contract and switch it to someone else. I mean if you really make it worth my time I will buy a freighter pilot, assign the contract to him, and run when CODE is asleep. How much are you willing to pay for this? I'm thinking at least 10 bil payment..... |

Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.13 03:41:05 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I told ye like a month ago that you would never actually have to discredit him, just keep him talking long enough and he'll do a better job of that himself than any of us ever could.
Heck of a job, Ralphie.
How about another 32 page bounty thread to try and silence me? Worked great the first time. |

Veers Belvar
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Posted - 2014.11.13 04:25:23 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: If it's not about me I shall make it about me! And the band played on, seemingly unawares.
Someone gotta take on the CODE trolls...might as well be me. Not like they are capable of doing anything about it.
Maybe they should run another incursion gank contest - lolz.... |

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Posted - 2014.11.13 06:02:29 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Leto Thule wrote:I am now 100% convinced veers is just a troll.
There is NO WAY he is this inept at simple comprehension.
Lucas Kell alt? If he is a Loyalanon alt, then he is truly a master troll.
The only trolls here are you folks and your "Code" garbage....trying to grief people for playing the game. Not only irritating, but incompetent too. Time for a new scam.
Edit - and considering I did a 2 hour TS with Loyalanon, probably not an alt of his. Veers has been, and will always be, my main. |
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